Strelski incident izgovor za zaostritev zakonodaje?

[Mato]

Razmerje med dolgo in kratkocevnim orožjem in kriminalno uporabo je po svoje logično ker pač dolge flinte niso preveč praktične ,v ZDA kratkocevno orožje predstavlja cca 1/3 vsega orožja a je uporabljeno v preko 80% umorov z strelnim orožjem in 90% nasilnega kriminala kjer je uporabljeno orožje.

Meni se je zdelo , da je med ca 300 milionov kosi, kot naj bi jih imeli drzavljani ZDA, okoli 45% pistol/revolverjev. Zanima me, od kje imas podatek da le 1/3?

Kaj sploh debatiraš vidiš da celo v svojih "statistikah" sam sebe oz. to kar zagovarjajo pobije ker ni logike (če predpostavimo njihove utopizme, da je orožje krivo za kriminal) da potem prepoveduješ assault weapons pa nevem kake nabojnike za PAP a 80% in 90% je narejeno s pištolami in revolverji. Nabijanje brez repa in glave zato, da se neki dogaja....

[Orien]

Hmm, morda pa bo kakšen takšen primer vzpodbudil državo, da izda navodilo prebivalcem, da se naj ne upirajo vlomilcem, ampak zaboga raje pomagajo nositi robo v kombi:

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[Mato]

Kaj lažeš to se pri nas ja ne dogaja zihr si si zmislil al pa novinarji spet neki pretiravajo.... /sarc off

Sicer je pa tip itak bedak kaj sploh misli za par 10k€ in življenje babnce se bo pustil fentat mar bi bejžal dalje.... /sarc off

Policaji so ultra hitri in so ga specialne enote uspele prijeti v marini Izola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ti kot navaden državljan bodi golorok in se umikaj in jej drek, ker si itak nevaren družbi a za prijetje tega "nenevarnega in oh in sploh nedolžno bebave zadeve pri kateri je itak bolje da nisi oborožen, ker baje ne rabiš" so pa morali poslati SPECIALNO ENOTO! OMFG.


Edit: Sedaj sem prebral si še komentarje spodaj od določenih osebkov in več kot očitno je da tule v Kokoški ob takem folku definitivno ne bo lepa prihodnost "Od kje tipu tok kesha....WTF"...

[Orien]

"Od kje tipu tok kesha....WTF"...

Ja, v smislu, saj če ima toliko, mu je itak treba pobrati... Nekam znano zvenijo ti komentarji, spominjajo na komentarje tiste variante, ko je babica natumfala lopove pri ropu zlatarne...

[mr.T]

Meni se je zdelo , da je med ca 300 milionov kosi, kot naj bi jih imeli drzavljani ZDA, okoli 45% pistol/revolverjev. Zanima me, od kje imas podatek da le 1/3?

Tebi se lahko tako zdi ampak za hec poglej FBI statistiko, ki je sicer stara par let ampak navaja cca tak razdelek brez decimalk 34% kratkocevnega ,36% risanic , 29% šrotflint ,tudi če te cifre ne držijo čisto so tam nekje kolikor lahko ocenijo saj je treba vedt ,da se za orožje v obtoku šteje od 1899 ,ne koliko se ga je letos prodalo

[mr.T]

Drugače pa zgleda. da je ali Hussein zalaufal na polno program psihološke vojne, da se tolk na veliko pokajo in vse objavijo ali pa samo vročina pa kak kos orožja peveč pri roki dela svoje ,da samo 'državljani' z legalnim orožjem na veliko pokajo folk zadnje dni ,kriminalci z ilegalnim so zgleda vsi na sezonskem delu v Mehiki [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]

Tole ja ko bi naši CD romi iz žabjaka nastopal.

Clash between 2 families led to shooting that injured 7, says cruise operator owner

By Tom Greenwood and George Hunter
The Detroit News
102 Comments

The Detroit River Princess, scene of late-night shooting, is docked on the Detroit River near Hart Plaza on Monday.
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The Detroit River Princess, scene of late-night shooting, is docked on the Detroit River near Hart Plaza on Monday. (Ankur Dholakia/Detroit News)

Detroit— An argument between two families aboard a riverboat cruise sparked a shooting spree that left seven people wounded after a person disembarked and grabbed a gun.

The incident occurred shortly after 1 a.m. Monday after 500 passengers departed the Detroit Princess after attending the Hot 107.5 "On Deck Sunday" Moonlight Cruise.

"We were walking off boat at about 1:15, and I'm hearing women arguing outside (on the dock)," said Keith Gillespie, 45, assistant promotions director for Radio One Detroit, which coordinated the cruise.

"Then I heard what I thought was a firecracker — then I realized it was gunfire. I'm backing up into the boat; people are running; women are hollering. I saw women laying in the grass … shot."

The shooting left one person in critical condition with a back wound, and six with minor injuries to arms, legs and feet, according to police.

"According to police, there was a family feud and two groups got into an argument," said John Chamberlain, CEO of CJC Cruises Inc. "One woman called her boyfriend and told him to bring a gun down to the dock. She got off the boat, got the gun from the boyfriend and started shooting at the other family as they got off the boat.

"She really went kind of crazy and pulled the trigger a lot of times."

According to Chamberlain, the family being shot at retrieved a gun from a car and started shooting at the woman and her boyfriend as they fled the scene.

"They hit the boyfriend, and apparently, he's the one who was seriously injured," Chamberlain said. "The other six people were only slightly injured, mostly nicked. This was really an ugly incident."

Police have interviewed the wounded boyfriend and have obtained the identity of the woman who started the shooting spree, Chamberlain said.

Initial information from the Detroit Police Department mirrors Chamberlain's understanding of the incident.

According to Sgt. Alan Quinn, "some sort of altercation" aboard the boat culminated with a female recovering a weapon from a car and shooting wildly before fleeing. Police have not released a description of the woman or her car.

In November, the Detroit Princess cut short a weekend jaunt to Ohio because of a brawl onboard between a contingent from Toledo and other passengers and staff.

Passengers on that cruise were offered refunds or admission to a future dinner cruise.

"I've been doing this for 35 years, and I've had millions of passengers on my boat," Chamberlain said. "We're just like the airlines; we check every person for weapons who comes on board. And we do our best to stop problems right away."

Chamberlain started the Detroit Princess dinner cruises in 2005, when he purchased a 12-year-old vessel that had formerly served as a riverboat casino in Lake Charles, La.

The boat, which was once owned by a conglomerate that included former television personality Merv Griffin, endured four hurricanes over 7,000 miles when it first came to Detroit.

According to Chamberlain, the Detroit Princess over the years has been booked by churches, religious groups, wedding parties, graduation ceremonies, parties and the like.

Earlier in the evening the Detroit Princess hosted a gospel group on board.

According to Chamberlain, he's already had groups cancel their cruises because of the incident.

"I feel terrible about this, but it could happen to any business," Chamberlain said. "You can take all the precautions in the world, but someone could wait outside your business and do the same thing.

"There were 500 passengers on that cruise; 499 good people and one bad one."

From The Detroit News: [url="http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120806/METRO01/208060371#ixzz23YIm2gob"]http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... z23YIm2gob[/url]

[Mato]

Latoiya Mitchell turned herself into police less than 24 hours it was announced publicly that she is the suspect in the shooting of six people outside the Detroit River Princess early Monday.

Sej so.

[mr.T]

In tako kot naše CD-rome so tudi njo že spustili.

*drugače pa mi je najbolj zabavna prilubjena 'super varna' hramba orožja v avtomobilu

Pa še par zabavnih priponk ,glavni razlog zakaj nimajo še več flint je, da so pedrage ,kaj bi potem rekl tile modeli na naše cene,druga zanimiva je da je oborožen večji odstotek takih , ki so že bili aretirani kot 'poštenih državljanov' [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]

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[seba20]

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[Mato]

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[Mato]

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[Orien]

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[Friderik Koletnik]

ja pa ja. če etnični pokajo ni nič, če pa pride do strela po nesreči pa strelca takoj spravijo v pripor. s tem pa da novinarji pišejo tudi takšne naslove, da te srat pritisne:
V Hrastniku na davčnem uradu ustrelili uslužbenko
vir: slovenske novice.
takšen naslov zavaja ljudi, da je brez veze.

[Mato]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9wahCTz08

Niso vsi idioti...

[Robert91922]

ja pa ja. če etnični pokajo ni nič, če pa pride do strela po nesreči pa strelca takoj spravijo v pripor. s tem pa da novinarji pišejo tudi takšne naslove, da te srat pritisne:
V Hrastniku na davčnem uradu ustrelili uslužbenko
vir: slovenske novice.
takšen naslov zavaja ljudi, da je brez veze.

Zaradi takšnih naslovov v SN se tega kvazi cajtnga [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_sick.gif[/img] že leta nisem dotaknil niti v kafiču, kjer ga nudijo kot brezplačno branje ob kavi

[Orien]

ja pa ja. če etnični pokajo ni nič, če pa pride do strela po nesreči pa strelca takoj spravijo v pripor. s tem pa da novinarji pišejo tudi takšne naslove, da te srat pritisne:
V Hrastniku na davčnem uradu ustrelili uslužbenko
vir: slovenske novice.
takšen naslov zavaja ljudi, da je brez veze.

Zaradi takšnih naslovov v SN se tega kvazi cajtnga [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_sick.gif[/img] že leta nisem dotaknil niti v kafiču, kjer ga nudijo kot brezplačno branje ob kavi

Za nekatere deluje kava odvajalno, tisti bolj "zaprti" pa rabijo zraven še svež izvod SN... [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif[/img]

[mr.T]

Brazilci v akciji ,policist se bo ziher moral zagovarjat zaradi opozorilnega strela [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif[/img]

V soboto zvečer se je v okolici Metlike zgodil incident. Nekaj minut pred polnočjo je policiste poklicala ženska, ki je prosila za pomoč, saj je bil njen 16-letni sin pijan in nasilen. Doma je razgrajal, sama pa ga ni mogla umiriti. Policisti so se na klic seveda odzvali. Mladenič je ob njihovem prihodu kršil javni red in mir. Pozivali so ga, naj se umiri, a je on to zavračal.

Nato pa se je začelo: najprej se je 16-letnik v policiste zapodil, pri tem pa je v roki držal kos pločevine. Možje v modrem so zoper mladoletnika, ki se je aktivno upiral, uporabili prisilna sredstva. Ko so se policisti še ukvarjali s 16-letnikom, se je proti njim zapodila skupina, ki je kričala in "z različnimi predmeti mahala proti policistom", je razložila tiskovna predstavnica Novo mesto Alenka Drenik. Eden izmed njih pa je policiste napadel s sekiro oziroma mesarsko sekiro, pri tem pa je kričal, da jih bo ubil. Napadalec je star 39 let.Policisti so se branili in skupino pozivali, naj prenehajo. Ker je 39-letnik še naprej vihtel sekiro, je eden izmed policistov izstrelil opozorilni strel. Drenikova pri tem opozarja, da "ni šlo drugače". Takrat se je 39-letnik skupaj s preostalimi umaknil, a z napadom so nadaljevali, saj so iz varne razdalje policiste obmetavali z različnimi predmeti. Trije med njimi – 17-letnik, 14-letnik in 23-letnik – so med kričanjem policistom grozili z ubojem.

Policisti so kljub aktivnemu upiranju in grožnjam okoli 1. ure prijeli, vklenili in na policijsko postajo privedli vseh pet omenjenih glavnih osumljencev, v delo pa so se vključili tudi kriminalisti sektorja kriminalistične policije policijske uprave Novo mesto. Po intervenciji sta zdravniško pomoč iskala eden od policistov in eden od prijetih osumljencev.

16-letnik in 39-letnik sta bila pridržana za 48 ur in bosta s kazensko ovadbo privedena k preiskovalnemu sodniku, preostali trije so bili po šestih urah spuščeni.
Policisti in kriminalisti nadaljujejo zbiranje obvestil zaradi suma storitve kaznivega dejanj preprečitve uradnega dejanja oziroma napada na uradno osebo. "Kazenski zakonik v 300. členu za takšna dejanja predvideva zaporno kazen od šestih mesecev do treh oziroma petih let," je še razložila Drenikova.

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[mr.T]

Tako se dela [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]

All nine people injured in Friday's Empire State Building shooting were hurt as a result of police fire, New York's police chief has confirmed.

During the incident, which was captured by surveillance cameras, police officers shot dead a gunman who had just killed a former work colleague.

Commissioner Ray Kelly said bystanders had been hit by bullets or fragments of bullets striking objects.

They suffered minor injuries and all are expected to survive.

Detectives are still trying to establish what drove the gunman, t-shirt designer Jeffrey Johnson, to ambush Steve Ercolino, vice-president of a clothing firm.

According to police, Johnson hid behind a car and killed Mr Ercolino with five shots as he arrived for work in Manhattan soon after 09:00 (13:00 GMT).

"It appears that all nine of the victims were struck either by fragments or by bullets fired by police," said Commissioner Kelly.

Video released by police shows the moment when officers challenge Johnson and open fire as he appears to draw a gun in a busy street.

"We have on tape the perpetrator pulled his gun out and tried to shoot at the cops," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said earlier.

"Whether he got off any bullets or not [is] to be determined."

Johnson lost his job last year and is believed to have held a grudge against Mr Ercolino.