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Strelski incident izgovor za zaostritev zakonodaje?
"M Napisal:http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2...kable.html

Če imaš sam otroke, se te kaj takšnega še posebej dotakne...

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"Or Napisal:http://www.infowars.com/2013-the-year-america-dies/

"The American flag may fall but there are other flags in this country. I am talking to my southern brothers and you know which flag I am talking about. We lost the war once are we going to let it happen again." [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_clap.gif[/img]
lp Melly
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"Me Napisal:
"Or Napisal:http://www.infowars.com/2013-the-year-america-dies/

"The American flag may fall but there are other flags in this country. I am talking to my southern brothers and you know which flag I am talking about. We lost the war once are we going to let it happen again." [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_clap.gif[/img]


The south shall rise again? [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_question.gif[/img] [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif[/img]
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NRA so se nenavadno potuhnili. Njihov Facebook profil je ukinjen, izjav za javnost ni, javnih nastopov ni... očitno jih je zaskrbelo, da ni tole res (vsaj trenutno) šlo predaleč...
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In kaj naj nekdo reče nekomu, ki iracionalno ves rdeč goni svojo brez kančka miselne aktivnosti? To je nekako tko kot, če bi hotel svoji besno jezni ženi pojasniti, da se ti je zdelo povsem logično zastaviti poročni prstan za potrebe nakupa novih prevlek za avto (10l staro škodo) in ostalo zapraviti s kolegi v gostilni. Đabe posla bolje it v ilegalo za nekaj časa (let??? [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif[/img] ).
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Tako kot ponavadi pri NRA ko rečejo ni zdaj čas za govor o tej temi ? Problem dejansko tiči drugje in vse je odvisno od tega, trenutno se v ZDA ni trebe nobenemu politiku NRA dobirkat vsaj 2 leti saj so bili vsi glavni akterji ravno dobro zvoljeni.In naslednje runde volitev kje se bodo spet dobrikali vsem ni na sporedu še nekaj časa mislim, da leto in pol.
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"M Napisal:Đabe posla bolje it v ilegalo za nekaj časa (let??? [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif[/img] ).

Let's hide in the tall grass and wait until this blows over... Maybe they know, something we don't?
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Podgane že bežijo ,Reši se kdor se more pravi kapital . Zgleda ,da bo bolj malo lobistov dobilo pro gun miljone $$ saj je bil za te zadeve glavni prov tale Cerberus Capital in njihov Freedom Group

Citat:Cerberus Capital Management's move came after pressure from one of its own biggest investors, the California State Teachers' Retirement System (Calstrs).

Cerberus bought Bushmaster in 2006, and more gunmakers since, merging them into Freedom Group, which it will now sell.

The firm said it wanted to avoid being drawn into the gun control controversy

"We believe that this decision allows us to meet our obligations to the investors whose interests we are entrusted to protect without being drawn into the national debate that is more properly pursued by those with the formal charter and public responsibility to do so," Cerberus said in a statement.

"We do not believe that Freedom Group or any single company or individual can prevent senseless violence or the illegal use or procurement of firearms and ammunition," the firm added, noting that Freedom Group only sold weapons to federally licensed dealers and distributors, and not directly to US citizens.

Freedom Group claims to be the world's largest manufacturer of commercial firearms, selling over two billion rounds of ammunition each year.

As well as Bushmaster, the maker of the AR15-style rifle, Freedom Group also owns Remington, the oldest US gunmaker established in 1816, and seven other gun arms manufacturers, as well as majority stakes in two clothing companies specialising in hunting and paramilitary apparel.

The group made profits before tax of $2.7m in the 12 months to September 2012, on $875m of sales.

Calstrs, which is the second largest pension fund in the US, had said on Monday that it was reviewing its own $750m (L460m) investment in Cerberus in light of the deaths of 20 school children and seven adults including teachers at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut last Friday.

Cerberus, which is one of the biggest private equity firms in the world with over $20bn of assets under management, said that the shootings represented "a watershed event that has raised the national debate on gun control to an unprecedented level".

Proceeds from the sale of Freedom Group would be returned to Cerberus' investors, and not reinvested by the firm..

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Največja ironija pa je tole ,kalifornijski učitelji ki svoje penzijski sklad vlagajo v Freedom group ,torej direkt v Bushmaster puško, ki je pobijala [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif[/img]

California teachers fund reviewing private equity gun investment - December 17, 2012 - The California State Teachers' Retirement System (CalSTRS) said on Monday it was reviewing its investment with Cerberus Capital Management LP, the private equity firm that controls Bushmaster Firearms International, in light of last week's school shooting in Connecticut.

CalSTRS had invested $751.4 million with Cerberus by the end of March 2012, according to its website.
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"m Napisal:Največja ironija pa je tole ,kalifornijski učitelji ki svoje penzijski sklad vlagajo v Freedom group...

Vlagajo tja, kjer so največji donosi. Lahko pa so načelni in na koncu puf od penzije...
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Sorry za off topic ampak skladi javnih uslužbencev v ZDA so definitivno že v kurcu in če bo zarad tega padla kakšna vrednost delnic (in ne dvomim da ne bo) bo v teh problemih z likvidnostjo (ne pobčki, taki skladi ne dobijo fedovih sredstev ker gredo fedova sredstva za plače, da je sploh kaj danes in niti pod razno ne razmišljajo o jutri) prodaja freedom grupa še najmanj česar se bodo losali... Je pa vsekakor bad publicity in pri služenju kesha načela (sploh pri tistih, ki jih že v osnovi nimajo) ne igrajo kake večje vloge...
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Pri 16.000 milijardah USD javnega dolga ZDA ohranjajo bonitetno oceno AAA [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_wall.gif[/img]

Očitno je treba na hitro razorožiti Američane, ker bo kmalu počil prenapihnjen ameriški finančni balon. Posledice - nepredstavljive...
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No ja ne preveč tile pezijski skladi , so v hedge fondih zginjal ,kot za stavo ,tudi z prodajo Freedom groupa bodo ta trenutek naredili bolj slab posel ,poleg tega ,če si malo spremljal dogajanje v orožarski industriji ,ti je jasno ,da so te firme prinašale zelo malo dividend ,a po drugi strani so delnice rasle nesorazmerno močno kar je bolj kot za investitorje bilo fino za hedge sklad

Manoniš če imas 'Bušmasterja' te ta trenutek gledajo že kot napol vojnega kriminalca.
Citat:Dick's Sporting Goods (DKS.N) pulled all guns from its store closest to the site of the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, and suspended the sale of certain kinds of semi-automatic rifles from its chains nationwide.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT.N) took down an informational website about semi-automatic Bushmaster rifles.

Jurišni magazin WTF je to
Citat:The bill backed by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) and Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) mirrors legislation that has been introduced in the Senate by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.). It would ban magazines for more than 10 rounds of ammunition and prohibit the transfer, possession or importation of those magazines that are manufactured after the date of the law being signed.

Similar bills have been introduced or pushed after every episode of major gun violence in the past few years -- in part because all involved high-capacity magazines -- but to no avail. Backers of the legislation, however, say there is movement in their direction following the murder of 20 first-graders and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

"Right away we could pass ... we could pass the ban on the assault magazine," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday. "Just to ban the magazine, the assault magazine, we could do it right now."
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populizem, čeprav je očitno "shit hit the fan" in vsi zdej vlečejo glavo med ramena. Sicer briljanten primer slovenskega novinarstva, ki se glasi takole "Tiskovni predstavnik Bele hiše Jay Carney pa je razkril, da je predsednik Barack Obama podprl predlog, s katerim bodo ponovno uvedli prepoved na napadalno orožje..."

Torej, civilni kloni AR in ostalih jurišnih pušk so na listi za prepoved?
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"Krist Napisal:Torej, civilni kloni AR in ostalih jurišnih pušk so na listi za prepoved?

Slabo kaže, da bo kakšen ban. Že tako se mi je Obama zdel zelo medel, kar se gun controla tiče...

Jay Carney Walking Back President Obama’s Gun Control Support?
[url="http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/foghorn/jay-carney-walking-back-president-obamas-gun-control-support/"]www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/fogho ... l-support/[/url]
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"S Napisal:Slabo kaže, da bo kakšen ban. Že tako se mi je Obama zdel zelo medel, kar se gun controla tiče...
Stra, a si želiš gun ban v ZDA? najbrž potem veš kaj sledi v EU...
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Assault nabojniki so nova tacticool roba? Očitno so hi cap nabojniki assault al kaj...

http://http://banassaultmagazines.com/
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Mogoče pa sam na Kalifornijski nivo ,tam ni dovoljen pistol grip in menjava magazina ni mogoča brez 'orodja' (v tem primeru enega naboja).

Za jurišni nabojnik si predstavljam najmanj takega kot ga je imela Jackhamer šrotflinta( magazin je bil uporaben tudi kot mini claymore mina) ali pa takega ,ki je nevaren tudi če ga komu vržeš v glavo [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]

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"Friderik Kolet Napisal:Stra, a si želiš gun ban v ZDA? najbrž potem veš kaj sledi v EU...
Hmmm, ne, ravno nasprotno. Je bilo to moč razbrati iz mojega posta? Potem se nisem jasno izrazil. Sem proti kakršnikoli prepovedi.
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