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Strelski incident izgovor za zaostritev zakonodaje?
"Uroš Palhartin Napisal:Kaj pa če kdo poleg svoje municije prinese še svoj zaklep?? [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_think.gif[/img] [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_think.gif[/img] [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_sick.gif[/img]
Brez skrbi, da vsakemu še notranjost jajc preverijo, preden ga spustijo v bližino tega pacienta... Kakšen kapselj bi še šel mimo kontrole (pa magari v riti... [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/extra_right.gif[/img] ), zaklep pa, hmmm, težka...
Evo zdaj ,ko imajo domačega 'terorista' upam ,da v sred Los Angelesa uporabijo metode, ki jih drugače radi prakticirajo po svetu.
Madoniš sem žleht. [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_doh.gif[/img]

Citat:William M. Welch, USA TODAY12:28p.m. EST February 11, 2013
LOS ANGELES -- City officials offered a $1 million reward Sunday for information leading to the capture of fugitive ex-cop Christopher Dorner, accusing him of "domestic terrorism'' in targeting law enforcement officers and their families.

Police Chief Charlie Beck said the reward was the largest ever offered in Southern California and includes contributions from businesses and private individuals as well as public funds. Dorner has been accused by police of the shooting deaths of three people, one of them a police officer and another the daughter of a former officer.

"Why so large?'' Beck said. "This is an act, and make no mistake about it, of domestic terrorism. This is a man who has targeted those who we entrust to protect the public. His actions cannot go unanswered.''

Making a show of solidarity, mayors and police chiefs from several affected are communities joined Beck and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa in announcing the reward. FBI and U.S. Marshals service officials joined in the announcement.

"We will not tolerate a killer targeting our officers and their families, targeting innocent people in this city and in this region,'' Villaraigosa said.

The manhunt for Dorner, 33, resumed Sunday with a scaled back search of a mountain resort area, now covered with snow, east of the city. Dorner's burned-out Nissan pickup was found Thursday, and authorities said remnants of camping gear and weapons were found in the charred vehicle on a forest road in the Big Bear area of San Bernardino County.

Beck said police were searching elsewhere too and that protective teams are guarding more than 50 families believed to be targets of Dorner because of ties to law enforcement, including many named in Dorner's online "manifesto" vowing revenge for his own derailed career.

"Our search continues in and around the areas where we have known targets,'' Beck said.

Dorner is wanted in connection with a double homicide and the killing of a police officer in a rampage that police say stems from his dismissal from the Los Angeles Police Department in 2008.

Police are investigating a taunting phone call that Dorner may have made to the father of the woman they believe he killed, Monica Quan, a week ago. Two law enforcement officers who requested anonymity because of the ongoing investigation told the Associated Press they are trying to determine who made the call to Randal Quan, a retired Los Angeles police captain, days after the killing.

The caller allegedly told Randal Quan that he should have done a better job protecting his daughter. Monica Quan was found dead of multiple gunshots with her fiance in a car outside their Irvine condominum.

Randal Quan practiced law after leaving the force and represented Dorner during his internal personnel hearings within the Los Angeles Police Department.

"Hopefully the reward will motivate people that may be involved with assisting him (Dorner) or might be reluctant to talk to us to call us and to put an end to this," Los Angeles police Sgt. Rudy Lopez said.
Drones. Check
Large reward. Check
Innocents shot up. Check

Yep they are....
Citat:Drones. Check
Large reward. Check
Innocents shot up. Check
White Phosphorus. check

To radi uporabijo namesto drugih dimnih sredstev in a vrjamem da je vsem ki te WP dimne granate uprabljajo da zadeva ni nedolžna in vsaj tako učinkovito kot dimi poskrbi za kak požar.


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likvidacija name of the game ,tegale so kar zroštiljal tako kot že enkrat v Waco.
likvidacija name of the game ,tegale so kar zroštiljal tako kot že enkrat v Waco.
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Citat:Olympic Arms Announces New York State Sales Policy

Olympic Arms is a staunch believer in and defender of the Constitution of the United States, and with special attention paid to the Bill of Rights that succinctly enumerates the security of our Divinely given Rights. One of those Rights is that to Keep and Bear Arms.

Legislation recently passed in the State of New York outlaws the AR15 and many other firearms, and will make it illegal for the good and free citizens of New York to own a large selection of legal and safe firearms and magazines. We feel as though the passage of this legislation exceeds the authority granted to the government of New York by its citizens, and violates the Constitution of the United States, ignoring such SCOTUS rulings as District of Columbia v. Heller - 554, U.S. 570 of 2008, McDonald v. Chicago - 561 U.S. 3025 of 2010, and specifically the case of United States v. Miller - 307 U.S. 174 of 1939.

Due the passing of this legislation, Olympic Arms would like to announce that the State of New York, any Law Enforcement Departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responders within the State of New York, or any New York State government entity or employee of such an entity - will no longer be served as customers.

In short, Olympic Arms will no longer be doing business with the State of New York or any governmental entity or employee of such governmental entity within the State of New York - henceforth and until such legislation is repealed, and an apology made to the good people of the State of New York and the American people.

If the leaders of the State of New York are willing to limit the right of the free and law abiding citizens of New York to arm themselves as they see fit under the Rights enumerate to all citizens of the United State through the Second Amendment, we feel as though the legislators and government entities within the State of New York should have to abide by the same restrictions.

This action has caused a division of the people into classes: Those the government deems valuable enough to protect with modern firearms, and those whose lives have been deemed as having less value, and whom the government has decided do not deserve the right to protect themselves with the same firearms. Olympic Arms will not support such behavior or policy against any citizen of this great nation.

Olympic Arms invites all firearms manufacturers, distributors and firearms dealers to join us in this action to refuse to do business with the State of New York. We must stand together, or we shall surely fall divided.


Brian Schuetz
Olympic Arms, Inc.

Citat:York Arms - NY deliveries

Based on the recent legislation in New York, we are prohibited from selling rifles and receivers to residents of New York. We have chosen to extend that prohibition to all governmental agencies associated with or located within New York. As a result we have halted sales of rifles, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, machine guns, and silencers to New York governmental agencies.
For "civilian" customers residing in New York:
At your choice, we will:
complete your order and ship to a dealer of your choice outside of NY
refund your payment in full
hold your items here for up to 6 months, at no charge - if you are in the process of leaving NY and taking residence in another state.

For LE/Govt customers in New York:
Your orders have been cancelled.

And Templar Custom

Tko se dela...
Orožje nikoli ne pride prav!
"M Napisal:Orožje nikoli ne pride prav!
Like the man said, two out of three ain't bad... [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_clap.gif[/img]
Upam, da je tole komu odprlo oči in da ko se stvari zaostrijo pri nas ne bodo le "teleta" z izbuljenimi očmi gledala v gospodarja in mukala od groze.
no, da ne bomo samo preko luže.
dogajanje v merkellandu, ki je v EU.... nemci (določene frakcije) hočejo dodatno zaostritev zakonodaje in legalne lastnike orožja nadzorovati huje kot kriminalce. v nadzor želijo vključiti obveščevalno službo.
No, tukaj so polni dobrih nasvetov...
[url="http://twitchy.com/2013/02/18/who-needs-a-gun-university-advises-women-to-whistle-vomit-fake-a-disease-to-avoid-rape/"]http://twitchy.com/2013/02/18/who-needs ... void-rape/[/url]
Magpul grozi ,da bo selil fabrko ,folk pa ........jebe se jim naj seli fabriko.

Citat: Coloradans want MAGPUL to leave...
Most Coloradans want MAGPUL to leave according to this unscientific poll conducted by the Denver Post...

Post Poll - Gun Magazines
If Colorado passes legislation banning the possession of high-capacity gun magazines, should Colorado-based manufacturers of such magazines leave the state?
Total Votes = 3837
Yes. Let them carry through with their recent threats to leave. Colorado doesn't need them here.
2516 Votes, or 65.57 %
No. HB 1224 makes it clear they could still legally produce high-capacity magazines to sell elsewhere, and Colorado needs the jobs.
1050 Votes, or 27.36 %
Unsure. I'm somewhere in the middle.
271 Votes, or 7.062 %
"m Napisal:Magpul grozi ,da bo selil fabrko ,folk pa ........jebe se jim naj seli fabriko.
Amerosi nam postajajo vedno bolj podobni... Tudi tukaj se vsem jebe, ko gredo fabrike ven...

Pa še ideje so nam začeli krasti o kontroli "varne" hrambe A kategorije (tja nameravajo uvrstiti t.i. assault weapons...):
[url="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/19/democrats-gun-bill-lets-washington-state-sheriffs-/#ixzz2LO1km0cL"]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z2LO1km0cL[/url]

Izgleda, da bo kar držalo, da se bo počasi Land of the free pretvorila v še eno izmed premnogih rdečih močvirij... [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/extra_right.gif[/img]
Kar se varne hrambe tiče so ameri preveč domači z orožjem , ne potrebujejo varne hrambe , pa še klasika orožje po avtomobilih, ni čudno, da je toliko orožja ukradenega.
[img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] 3-D Printing Pioneer Wants Government to Restrict Gunpowder, Not Printable Guns
Citat:3-D Printing Pioneer Wants Government to Restrict Gunpowder, Not Printable Guns
just as gun control has made a comeback among politicians after a spate of deadly mass shootings, the rapid advances in 3-D printed guns have threatened to undermine those controls before they even get started. According to a leading 3-D printing researcher, the only way to prevent printed guns from shooting a new loophole in the law may be to control the gunpowder you need to fire them.

“Perhaps the only way forward, if we choose to try and control this, is to control the gunpowder — the explosives — and not the actual device,” Hod Lipson, a Cornell University professor of engineering and an early pioneer of 3-D printing, tells Danger Room. The reason, Lipson says, is that it would be the remaining “controlled substance” in a field that’s otherwise uncontrollable, regardless of the shape or size of the firearm that you’re using — or printing. It is the “unifying material everybody would need, and it would be a good target for regulation if people choose to regulate it.”

This is because while gunpowder can be manufactured at home, it is largely unregulated for small arms ammunition. (Although making it in your basement can be difficult and dangerous.) Making usable bullet cartridges is relatively simple with gunpowder, brass and some machine tools. But making a 3-D printed gun is even easier, involving inexpensive printing machines which create everyday objects using layers of heated plastic, and structured according to blueprints that can be freely shared and downloaded.

Lipson doesn’t make printed weapons. But for groups like Defense Distributed, a collective of 3-D printing gunsmiths which distributes firearms blueprints through its database Defcad, printable guns have been a means to directly challenge gun control legislation. Partially-printed guns have already been tested and refined by the group. In January, New York lawmakers banned magazines that hold more than seven rounds. In response, the group took to testing a printable 30-round magazine for the AR-15 rifle and named it the “Cuomo” after the state governor. The printable, plastic magazine survived after cycling through more than 300 rounds. Other hobbyists have since replicated Defense Distributed’s design.

Preventing anyone from making a 3-D printed gun or magazine is also tricky, to say the least. A common target for gun control advocates is the “Gun Show Loophole,” which allows gun sales between unlicensed individual buyers and sellers — without a background check — provided the sellers don’t make a living off it. But for 3-D printed guns, the question over whether to conduct a background check doesn’t even apply. The schematics are literally downloaded off the internet, shared anonymously, and serve as the blueprint for a gun anyone can make using plastic printer bought off a shelf. The guns themselves are not even sold to anyone, so how do you regulate it?

Lipson, who recently co-authored a book about 3-D printing, is cautious about what form gunpowder regulation could take, and didn’t explicitly take a side for or against gun control. “Whether or not there should be gun control as an issue — I’m trying to avoid the question of whether or not there should be — if somebody is going to put in gun control, it’s all about catching the one case,” he says, referring to individual criminals. The problem, he adds, is that it’s “very easy to make a one-off disposable plastic gun, if you like, that will shoot a few rounds. It’s not something that will happen in 20 years. It is possible today to do that, and the technology is only getting better.”

Note, however, these are not the kinds of firearms sold in gun stores, or the kind used by the military. They’re relatively crude, require some metal parts to function, and cannot survive during long-term use. A lot can go wrong, namely that the thermoplastic used to print a gun can melt and fail during firing if it’s brittle or absorbs too much heat.

Lipson should know: he’s a pioneer in the 3-D printing field. As the director of Cornell’s Creative Machine Labs, he’s led development in the Fab@Home Project, an open-source collective that created one of first 3-D printers that can use multiple materials — and that has reached the public. Lipson’s printers have since been used to print everything from artificial limbs to edible food.

Lipson also doesn’t believe criminals or those who would use the guns for sinister reasons would print one instead of simply buying a cheap conventional handgun. But even a working pistol that will fire enough rounds to kill someone could be enough to break gun control at the sale point — skipping around rigorous background checks and restrictions on high-capacity magazines.

“Criminals have other channels to get guns, but I am really more concerned about hobbyists and enthusiastic kids trying this route at home and actually injuring themselves in the process of doing that,” Lipson says. “If you make one and got it in the wrong temperature or was shoddy in any way, it’s actually dangerous to fire.”

This is a problem for Defense Distributed. The group has been cautious to note that “melting and failing in your hand will be a concern,” according to the group’s website. Hence the need for a lot of testing.

But there’s a dilemma inherent to the group’s vision of open-source weapons. It’s a question whether freely shared blueprints, modified with anonymity — and with zero oversight and regulation — can be truly made safe for the user. Sharing faulty blueprints could also make for a dangerous kind of trolling. That’s all a moot point if the guns don’t have the powder to shoot.
Mah "land of the free and the home of the brave"... počasi, počasi se še žabo skuha, pa niti ne ve, da jo kuhaš.
lp Melly
'home of the brave' [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/extra_rolling.gif[/img] [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/extra_rolling.gif[/img] Bolj prestrašenga folka verjetno ni na svetu ,tisto o 'land of the free' pa tud lahko pozabijo.
"Or Napisal:Izgleda, da bo kar držalo, da se bo počasi Land of the free pretvorila v še eno izmed premnogih rdečih močvirij... [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/extra_right.gif[/img]
ni še vse izgubljeno, takoj naložimo SDS &Co na Tupoljeva 154 in jih pošljemo na pomoč v obljubljeno deželo.

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