Strelski incident izgovor za zaostritev zakonodaje?

[mr.T]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEh3Q9ARMKE

[Melly]

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[darkob]

Hmmmm,...

http://http://www.pesmojprijatel...rili-mafka

[Ales]

Važno, da izvemo, da je bila pištola polavtomatska (kako vedo, mogoče je bila pa brzostrelka?)...

[Mato]

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[kimber]

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HUDO.
Gre za problem, kako zmagati v debati, ki je emocionalno "zaspinana"? Kako zmagati v debati, kjer je druga stran vspostavila terminologijo (assault weapon, hi-capacity clips, military style weapons, saturday night specials, cop killing bullets ...)?
Vladajoce politicne-ekonomsko-medijske elite so osebno motivirani, da prepricajo ljudstvo (masses are asses), da lahko pokalice zaupajo le super-vladnemu cloveku ( 007, ubercop, secret service, celebrities ...). Sejejo nezaupanje v posameznika, ki ga sprani mozgani radi povzemajo.

4. Julija 2013, bo sla skupina 10.000 oborozenih posameznikov prek reke Potomac v Washington D.C. - poguglajte!

[mr.T]

Debata ima na obeh straneh veliko dozo spina, a si pogledal govornike iz NRA konvencije ,kaki kreteni kako naj kdo debatira z takimi tile so si lepo postlal z fopanjem folka, ki je zabit ko tema.

Tele dva sta se najbolje vnovčila .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7MBqDYh0OU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSGsW8t63Kg

[darkob]

No, tale je res zadel. V lastno koleno.

http://http://www.delo.si/no...o.html

[romunov]

Zdravljenje mu bomo pa vseeno plačali drugi, ka-li?

[mr.T]

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In America today there are some people who believe themselves to be above the law, and it’s unfortunate that in many cases the very individuals and organizations tasked with ensuring the legitimacy of our justice system are the ones who fail to understand or abide by the law of the land.

In Cotati, California police officers showed up at the doorstep of one family after they were reportedly called because of an alleged domestic violence dispute, much to the surprise of the homeowners. As Cotati PD massed on the couple’s front lawn, the homeowner began documenting the encounter.

Law enforcement officers indicated they would be entering the home because of “domestic violence,” at which point both homeowners responded by advising them that they had merely had an argument and no domestic violence had taken place.

Baffled that the residents of the home refused to exit, one officer asked why they wouldn’t respond to their order.

The homeowner, who had previously cited his fourth Amendment right to be safe and secure on his property unless a warrant had been presented by officials, responds with what undoubtedly left police bewildered.

“Because we don’t live in a police state, sir.

Martial law has not been established in this country. “

What happens next is textbook jackbooted police state behavior, as cops kick in the family’s door unlawfully, without cause, and without a warrant.

(video via The Daily Sheeple)

Police reportedly justified their actions based on concerns over the welfare and safety of the children living at the home:

Many have speculated as to why the police felt they needed to unlawfully enter the home, with some claiming they could have felt the children lives were in danger yet the fact of the matter is the children were clearly fine and, if anything, would be psychologically and possibly even physically hurt by police breaking down their door and attacking their parents.

Who is the victim in this case? It’s not the children, who were peacefully playing in the front yard and in the home. And neither homeowner had raised a hand to the other.

In fact, the victims were the residents of the home, whose private property had been violated. The individual recording the video was reportedly tazed, detained and then arrested by police.

For what?

That answer remains unclear.

Based on the video documentation, the only ones who should be going to jail are the police officers who found it necessary to break in the door of a law abiding American for refusing to submit to an unlawful order.

There is only one course of action that need be taken at this point and that’s handcuffs and indictments for those who believe it’s totally within their job scope to violate the rights of an American citizen going about his business in his own home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eKBAsSu45U

[Mato]

Tole je morda najboljši napovednik za dogajanje v naslednjih letih.

[Mato]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w

[mr.T]

Pri temu zadnjemu morilcu-samomorilcu-pretepaču bab bodo na policiji malce morali razčistit kako tole laufa z orožnimi listinami in prijavami na policijo glede nasilja v družini.

Storilec je sicer bil mojster borilnih veščin. S karatejem se je ukvarjal 38 let, v svojem profilu na spletu pa je med svojimi znanji naštel borilne veščine, karate, tekmovalni karate, samoobrambo, udeleževal pa se je tudi strelskih tekmovanj s praktično vojaško in ostrostrelsko puško.

[pol1]

A ga poznamo?

[Mato]

Hmm ka pa zdej k je blo orožje legalno a čmo kr sami začet s kakšnimi peticijami po zaostritvi zakonodaje, ker očitno je tudi legalno orožje problem? Morda še bolj podroben pregled raznih karate klubov ali pa pod drobnogled vse z čudnimi brki??

Upam, da sedaj nekateri vneti nabijači o nelegalnem/legalnem zdej vidite, kako butasto je uporabljati argumente, ki besedi orožje dodajajo pridevnik legalno nelegalno v kontekstu zločinov iz bilokaterih vzrokov. Tako, da tudi recimo predpostavka, da bi mu orožje pobrali ne vzdrži, pač ne bi streljal ampak v vrtcu sekal, motorkal ali pa ročno izvedel to kar si je pač namenil izvest.

[markojelen]

".. imel je kar 7 kosov orozja.." pa ".. imel je avtomatsko pusko, ki je strogo prepovedana, razen za vojsko in policijo.. ".

nevem no..

[stafordcic]

Tale avtomatika je tudi mene zmotila čeprav nima veze frajer je naredu pizdarijo in povrhu zadevo imel še prijavljeno najebal bomo pa vsi mi ali pa bodoči prosilci o.l.
Novinarji bojo to že zrihtali kot so tudi z ,,prijavljeno avtomatsko puško,,

[SKALAR]

Če bo en takle strelski incident povod za to, da se zakonodaja na tem področju zaostri, pol smo pa res v k....

Novinarji so pa tudi smešni. Sm nekoč pod sliko bokarice prebral, da je to polavtomatska puška.... toliko o naših novinarjih....

[mr.T]

> stafordcic said:
> Tale avtomatika je tudi mene zmotila čeprav nima veze frajer je naredu pizdarijo in povrhu zadevo imel še prijavljeno najebal bomo pa vsi mi ali pa bodoči prosilci o.l.
> Novinarji bojo to že zrihtali kot so tudi z ,,prijavljeno avtomatsko puško,,

Mato kako koli obrneš se povsem strinjam z gornjim ,da zaenkrat je večja pizdarija, če je legalno kot ne . Ne vem samo kolikokrat te morajo zaradi nasilja obravnavat, da si ob vse pildke in krepela ,se tudi tu na forumu kak najde, ki se pritožuje zaradi zahtev UE zaradi svoje pisane preteklosti pa ne mislit, da so mišljeni parkirni listki.

[Orien]

Zdaj bodo seveda napihovali to pizdarijo do plafona, medtem pa na tiho sprejeli xxx zakonodaje, ki nas bo do konca spravila v komunistični raj... Samo, da ima raja kaj za glodat, pa je sreča v bajti.